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Wrapping it up

August 13, 2007,AuthorRoy (CategoryCar and Driving)

(This is the 7th post of the 8-part series An investing-friendly car buying guide. This is also somewhat long, but you get your car at the end!)

You have checked the car inside and out, test drove it, got the green signal from your mechanic, and now back to the seller to “seal the deal”. If you are buying from a private owner, the process is easy. The car usually costs less than it would in a dealership, and depending on the urgency of the owner, may cost even less than Edmunds’ TMVnew window. You may try bargaining down further if the car needs some major repair. Get all maintenance records from the owner (to make sure the car was in good hands). Complete the formalities of title transfer etc. and the car is yours.

Dealing with the salesman is harder. But the basics are simple as long as you are prepared. Keep in mind is that it is you, and not him, who is at the wrong end of the checkbook. But this is also a good thing: you have the option to walk away and make sure he knows. Jeff Ostroffnew window suggests you show up carrying a folder, giving the impression of a know-it-all guy with all necessary papers (at the very least your folder should have the TMV estimates and your mechanic’s report).

Being able to pay the entire amount upfront, instead of in loan installments, has two-fold advantage. The obvious one is that you do not have to make the extra interest payment on the loan (which may amount to a lot depending on the loan terms). The other advantage is psychological in that you have the upper hand - the dealer is not about to turn away a $10,000 check at the end of a long day.

The only time paying in installments makes good sense is if the loan carries 0% interest. But this is rare, requires you to have an outstanding credit scorenew window, and is offered only during limited days in the year. If you are unable to pay in full, and cannot get a 0% loan either, arrange for the loan from a reputed source before going to the dealership. Do not choose the dealer’s own loan offer - he will bury you under heavy interest. Check out these tipsnew window on how to get a good auto loan.

While negotiating always insist on the out-of-the-door price, which includes all applicable fees (including dealer fees, licensing fees) and sales tax. This is the amount you write on your check. You do not want to spend a hard hour negotiating for a price, and then see it blows up by couple of thousands because the dealer added all sorts of hidden fees that were never mentioned before. Refuse any extra offer, such as the dealer’s extended warranty that will cost another few thousands but not worth a dime (more on extended warranty in the next post).

Use all the weapons in your arsenal. Tell him about the scratches and dents you saw on the car, show the TMV printout, and wave your mechanic’s report at his face. Do not be coy about offering him several hundred dollars below his quote. Almost as a rule the dealer will “mark up” the price way over the car’s true value (you already know this from your TMV estimate). But do not make an unreasonably low offer - stay near TMV. (When I bought my 2001 Toyota Camry last year from a local dealer, he quoted $13,500 for it. I stood firm on my offer of $9000 which was reasonable, and got the car.) If your offer is reasonable, he will know it and ultimately relent.

The moment arrives! He makes a last trip to his manager, comes back with a grin and shakes your hand. You write the check, get the title+registration papers and keys, and drive away in your shiny used car!

But wait! One last point - the extended warranty »

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Checking the car out

August 13, 2007,AuthorRoy (CategoryCar and Driving)

(This is the 6th post of the 8-part series An investing-friendly car buying guide.)

You have short listed 4-5 used cars in your neighborhood that you are ready to check out and test drive. Give yourself a weekend to complete this process (unlike most of our work places, car dealers are not only open on weekends, these are some of their busiest days).

Visit the dealership (or the private seller), and inspect the car inch-by-inch, both outside and inside, for any visible dent, scratch, or damage. Take a friend along with you - four eyes will miss less than two. Samarinsnew window gives a detailed checklistnew window of the items you should look for in the car. Tell the salesman if you see anything that bothers you. Such cosmetic problems will help later in negotiating the price down.

Important: (Skip this paragraph if you are buying from a private seller.) Check the buyer’s warranty formnew window (you need Acrobat Readernew window installed on your computer to see it) that should be pasted on the car window (dealers are required by law to display it). If the “As Is” box is checked, tell the salesman that you are interested only if he gives you at least 2-3 months of dealer warranty (under “As Is” deal, the dealer takes no responsibility for any trouble with the car the moment you pay him - you do not want that kind of deal for a used car). If he does not listen, leave.

It is now time to go for a test drive (”the feel of the wheel will seal the deal”). Settle into the driver’s seat and shut out all distractions so you can listen in to every possible noise: turn down the A/C, switch off the music, and politely ask the chatty salesman to pipe down. Use a route that includes a significant stretch of highway so you can test both accelerator and brake. Make hard turns to test the steering wheel. Try all possible maneuvers short of giving the salesman a heart attack (you may use this checklistnew window).

By the time you reach the end of your list, you should know the one car you want. Ask the seller if you can take it to your own mechanic for a “pre-purchase inspection”. If he objects, leave. You do not want a used car without getting the approval of your trusted mechanic. They have an exhaustive list of items to check for in the car, and will charge between $50-$100 that is well worth paying. You should get a report of possible problems, which you can use to bargain the price further down. If you do not know any mechanic, look for an AAAnew window-approved one in your area.

It is time to Seal the deal »

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Researching your car

August 13, 2007,AuthorRoy (CategoryCar and Driving)

(This is the 5th post of the 8-part series An investing-friendly car buying guide.)

Visit Carfaxnew window with your list of cars and their VINsnew window. This is where you look up the entire history of the car, from its birth up to now. Carfax offers a free service too, but it is more than your money’s worth to pay $30 for the detailed history report for unlimited number of cars. The icing is Carfax’s “buyback guarantee”, the offer to buy the car back from you at the price you paid if the report misses any serious violation. Enter each of the VINs on your list, and look them up.

Study the report carefully. Things you should check for are

  1. if the car had been to any major accident or had storm/flood damage and salvaged in the past (remove it from your list rightaway);
  2. any odometer “rollback” (inconsistency in mileage shown - a no-no again);
  3. any report of it being stolen (run!);
  4. ownership history - it is desirable to have a single owner for the entire period, and Carfax shows a “1-owner” seal of approval in its report. Also check if any rental agency owned the car during its early years - such cars tend to have many dents and scratches.

Pick out 4-5 best prospects from your original list based on these reports. Keep this new list short so you can inspect and test drive all of them in a single weekend. Check with your DMV office to see if the car has any outstanding lien on it - loan amount that the previous owner hasn’t paid off yet (you do not want collectors to knock on your door for money that you do not owe!).

Last but not least, you need to know how much you expect to pay for these cars in your area. This is the price you should bargain for with the dealer, no matter how high his quote is. Here comes Edmunds’ TMVnew window (”true market value”) to your rescue. From your ZIP code, it will give you the average market price of your car, from both the dealer and private seller, based on the year, make, model, mileage and other details. Take a printout of this page along with you when visiting the seller.

Go on to Check the car out »

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Making a list

August 13, 2007,AuthorRoy (CategoryCar and Driving)

(This is the 4th post of the 8-part series An investing-friendly car buying guide.)

You want to buy a used car (why? because of this and this), and have a budget of $10,000. Which one car, among the several hundreds of different types out there, should you choose? For the sake of this discussion, we narrow the field down to the 4-door sedan cars in mid-sized segments. (Everything said here holds for most other types of cars as well.)

While choosing the car, first think about your needs. Do you drive a lot? With gas price touching $3 a gallonnew window in most places, a car that gives 25 miles a gallon costs $450 a year less than another that gives only 20 miles (assuming a yearly driving average of 15,000 miles) - a net saving of $2250 over 5 years. If you drive on snowy roads, you may need ABS (”anti-lock braking system”) fitted to your car. (ABS comes standard in most new cars these days, but it was offered as an option in older models.)

After you have made your choice of the type, it is time to hit Internet. Look up the online inventory of all new car dealerships in your neighborhood (leave out used car dealers - it is harder to find a reliable car there), and also check out personal sales ads such as craigslistnew window and classifieds in your local newspaper. New car dealers keep a variety of used cars that are traded in by customers who swap them for new cars. These are privately owned, and generally well maintained.

Besides, dealers may add a few months of warranty (more on this later) that gives you some peace of mind. The downside is having to deal with the dreaded salespeople, if you are not well prepared (worry not, this guide will teach you enough to face him with courage). A private seller, by contrast, is ready to sell without much hassle and also the car is usually cheaper. But the problem here is that you must buy his car “as is”, without any accompanying warranty.

Make a list of at least 10-15 cars based on your budget and other needs. (Dealers often “mark up” the price by several hundreds and even a few thousand dollars, which can be negotiated down. So if you like a car in the inventory that costs more than your budget, do not discard it just yet.) Ask for the VINnew window (”vehicle identification number” that uniquely identifies every car on the road) and odometer reading (number of miles the car has been driven so far) for each car on your list. The lower the mileage on the car, the less is its wear and tear (a rule of thumb is that the total number of miles should not exceed 15000 multiplied by the car’s age in years).

It is time to research your car »

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Picking a budget

August 13, 2007,AuthorRoy (CategoryCar and Driving)

(This is the 3rd post of the 8-part series An investing-friendly car buying guide.)

So you are going to buy a used car. Great! You have made a smart decision. The next step is to pick a budget - how much you want to pay for your car. This step is important, because your choice will decide how old a car you are going to get. From the depreciation graph, tweaking the budget by a couple of thousand dollars can mean getting a car that is few years newer or older.

In the world of used cars, the cheapest deal is not always the best deal. Getting a car for only $3000 may sound great now, but what you will likely get is a 10-year old clunker that may require costly maintenance over time. (My first car was a 13-year old Honda Accord with over 120,000 miles on it, for which I paid $3100. Over the next 4 years, it needed a few thousand dollars worth of repairs.) On the other hand, if you get a car that was kept well by its previous owner, and has low mileage, paying more now can buy you many nights of peaceful sleep.

Samarinsnew window suggests picking a budget between $8000 and $12,000, and I agree. From the depreciation graph, this means choosing a car that is 3-6 years old. With proper maintenance, such a car can go on for many more years relatively trouble-free. Let us settle on a budget of $10,000.

It is time to Make a list »

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